Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for +dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr1/ota/space/space.dl@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr1/ota/space/space.dl) (->ota+space.digests) ID ; Fri, 15 Jul 88 22:08:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 15 Jul 88 22:07:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for +dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr1/ota/space/space.dl; Fri, 15 Jul 88 22:06:07 EDT Received: by angband.s1.gov id AA16815; Fri, 15 Jul 88 19:06:50 PDT id AA16815; Fri, 15 Jul 88 19:06:50 PDT Date: Fri, 15 Jul 88 19:06:50 PDT From: Ted Anderson Message-Id: <8807160206.AA16815@angband.s1.gov> To: Space@angband.s1.gov Reply-To: Space@angband.s1.gov Subject: SPACE Digest V8 #275 SPACE Digest Volume 8 : Issue 275 Today's Topics: Re: Pegasus Re: Hawaiian spaceport? (Was: Re: SPACE Digest V8 #221) Re: Space Shuttle Black Box Re: Mir elements Fusion Power Info Re: Pegasus advance space news from June 6 AW&ST -- Pegasus! NASA news - Tony England; Senate ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 16 Jun 88 23:02:05 GMT From: hplabsb!dsmith@hplabs.hp.com (David Smith) Subject: Re: Pegasus In article <4772@hplabsb.UUCP>, dsmith@hplabsb.UUCP (David Smith) writes: > Since no one else has, I thought I'd point out the article on p.10 of > US News & World Report for June 13. It said that Orbital Sciences Corp. > and Hercules Aerospace announced a plan to develop Pegasus, a 50-foot Wouldn't you know it, posting this was the library's cue to finally put out the June 6 AW&ST, which has Pegasus on the cover. Let that be the primary reference, I guess. So now it's doubly surprising to me that, with all the oddball, exotic, and trivial stuff that gets discussed in this forum, Pegasus hasn't stirred more comment. David Smith HP Labs dsmith@hplabs.hp.com -- David Smith HP Labs dsmith@hplabs.hp.com ------------------------------ Date: 16 Jun 88 19:32:22 GMT From: attcan!utzoo!henry@uunet.uu.net (Henry Spencer) Subject: Re: Hawaiian spaceport? (Was: Re: SPACE Digest V8 #221) > ... and what are the relative pros and cons of sea ditching versus > land ditching as regards safety to crew and others? ... As for others, you are less likely to hit something when you come down in the sea because people don't build houses there very often. As for the crew, it makes no real difference because the orbiter is too fragile to survive a ditching. -- Man is the best computer we can | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology put aboard a spacecraft. --Von Braun | {ihnp4,decvax,uunet!mnetor}!utzoo!henry ------------------------------ Date: 16 Jun 88 19:38:15 GMT From: attcan!utzoo!henry@uunet.uu.net (Henry Spencer) Subject: Re: Space Shuttle Black Box > I heard that a court case last year ordered NASA to release the > cockpit black box tape from Challenger. This was around June or > so of last year. There was a reported 2-3 minutes of tape *AFTER* > the explosion. > > Anyone know any details on this... The only incident like this that I know of was a successful attempt to make NASA release the tape from an on-board voice recorder. This was *not* a "black box" in the usual sense of an armored flight recorder -- the shuttle does not carry one of those. As I recall, the only thing that was on the tape beyond what was heard over the radio was someone saying "uh-oh" at about the time the shit hit the fan. Nothing was recorded after the breakup of the orbiter. (I don't remember why, but the obvious reason would be loss of power.) There were some earlier odds and ends on it that didn't go out on the radio, but nothing with any relevance to the accident. -- Man is the best computer we can | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology put aboard a spacecraft. --Von Braun | {ihnp4,decvax,uunet!mnetor}!utzoo!henry ------------------------------ Date: 17 Jun 88 03:17:00 GMT From: kenny@m.cs.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: Mir elements Goddard *still* hasn't come out with a reliable set of Mir elements. What *are* they doing since Soyuz TM-5 went up? Fortunately, the old Progress 36 ones are still usable. I observed Mir visually this evening; it appeared roughly twenty seconds behind a prediction using the SGP theory. Unfortunately, I won't be able to confirm the elements visually any more during the mission; that was the last overflight of my location on this precessional cycle. Clear skies to those of you who have overflights yet to observe, and good luck on seeing the Soyuz separation (I didn't see any other objects during this overflight, but could have missed the Soyuz; there was still a lot of twilight). ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jun 88 14:40:06 CDT From: Will Martin -- AMXAL-RI Subject: Fusion Power Info There used to be an Internet "Energy" mailing list to which I could have directed this query, but it isn't listed in the List-of-Lists any more, so I suppose it is gone. Therefore, I ask this of Space, hoping that some of the readership there will be familiar with this subject: I just finished reading a book called THE MAN-MADE SUN, by T. A. Heppenheimer, dated 1984, which is a survey of the research into generating fusion power. Unfortunately, since it had to cut off in late '83, it left many then-current developments hanging, and I would like to find something to read that would bring me up-to-date on the subject, in general pop-science terms. Can anyone recommend any recent books, or magazine articles, that would provide a general discussion of where things are now in fusion research? I would particularily like to know what happened to Bussard and Inesco with regard to Riggatrons; that seemed an interesting and promising area. By the way, I found Heppenheimer's book interesting and it seemed to be a good introduction to the field. Unfortunately, it shifted its emphasis in the latter portion away from the technical developments to devote inordinate amounts of space to the details of the funding process and the personality clashes between people at DOE and OMB; while this is important in fact, because it determined how much money there was to put into the technical research, it wasn't what I wanted to read about. I would have preferred that those details be put into footnotes, or compressed into a paragraph or two, instead of having chapters devoted to them. To tie this to Space, there is a bit of discussion of research into fusion-powered spacedrives. At the time of writing, it seems there was a still-classified paper in the Livermore archives that worked out quite a lot of the problems and presented a feasable design for such a craft. The book is currently being remaindered; I saw it in the latest Strand catalog, and then found it at the library. Due to its faults, I would recommend you read a library copy first rather than buy one. Regards, Will Martin wmartin@ALMSA-1.ARPA (on USENET try "...!uunet!almsa-1.arpa!wmartin") ------------------------------ Date: 17 Jun 88 20:13:23 GMT From: att!ihlpa!animal@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (D. Starr) Subject: Re: Pegasus In article <4774@hplabsb.UUCP>, dsmith@hplabsb.UUCP (David Smith) writes: ...Orbital Sciences Corp. and Hercules Aerospace announced a plan to develop Pegasus, a 50-foot stub-winged rocket. Air launched from a B-52 or converted airliner at 40,000 ft., it would put an 850-pound payload into a 250 mile high orbit. Expected to fly in mid-1989, at $6 million per launch... ...it's doubly surprising to me that, with all the oddball, exotic, and trivial stuff that gets discussed in this forum, Pegasus hasn't stirred more comment. What's the surprise? At $6 million to launch 850 lbs (over $7000/lb), the per-pound cost of Pegasus will be: 23.5 times that of Energia ($300/lb), 9.4 times that of Proton (750/lb), 2.2 times that of Delta (3275/lb), 1.4 times that of Titan 4 (5100/bl), and (indignity of indignities) 4% higher than the Shuttle (6800/lb). That ain't too exciting. [Note on sources: Cost/lb to orbit estimates are from the infamous Newsweek article, which has been accused of *over* estimating the costs of launching on Shuttle and Titan. I did not compare with the Soviet "A" booster, which can be yours for a mere $13 million (according to a recent article on this network), because I don't know the exact payload capacity--but if it's even equivalent to the Delta (~5 tons), Pegasus is a good 5 times more costly. Anybody out there want to compare to Ariane or Long March?] ------------------------------ Date: 17 Jun 88 05:31:32 GMT From: attcan!utzoo!henry@uunet.uu.net (Henry Spencer) Subject: advance space news from June 6 AW&ST -- Pegasus! [As you have probably noticed, I am behind on AW&ST summaries. I will try and catch up a bit before I leave for Usenix. However, this one won't wait. The June 6 issue just arrived, and the lead story is the best news in years. So here's a special out-of-sequence report.] New launcher: Pegasus, a winged three-stage design that will be air- launched from a B-52. It's a joint effort of Orbital Sciences and Hercules, with Rutan building the wing. Payload is 600lb into low polar orbit, 900 into low equatorial orbit. Now the GOOD news... Pegasus is 100% private, although the first customer is DARPA. Total funding is $40-45M, about a third of it already spent. It has been underway about one year, they are already bending metal on the first one, and it flies NEXT YEAR! There is already a lineup of customers. Cost to orbit will be half or less that of similar-sized payloads on existing launchers. [At **LAST**, a launcher being built by sensible people! Note the modest size, the rapid schedule -- two years from startup to launch -- and the miniscule budget. Not to mention the lack of any attempt to force the taxpayers to fund it. This is how commercial launchers OUGHT to be done; thank all the gods that somebody had the guts to try doing it right!] DARPA is in the final stages of becoming the first customer, with a contract expected to be signed next week. The nature of the payload has not been released, but it is thought to be a small experimental comsat. Launch is set for July 1989. DARPA is buying launch services only, no funding for development is involved. Second launch will probably be another DoD payload from "a different agency" [betcha it's SDI] in Oct 1989. A NASA science payload is a candidate for number three in Dec 1989. OSC and Hercules are splitting the development cost 50-50 and will split profits the same way. Funding is entirely from internal resources and no outside capital is involved. Contractors have been picked, staff has been hired, parts are being built. Pegasus uses three new-design Hercules solid motors. Use of existing motors was considered, but new motors looked like a better bet. Cases are graphite composite, as is the wing, being developed by Burt Rutan. The thing is 49 feet long with a wing span of 22 feet, total weight 40klbs. These numbers are almost identical to those of the X-15, and the X-15's old B-52 will be the initial carrier aircraft. Gordon Fullerton, NASA research pilot and former astronaut (two shuttle missions) will command the B-52 for the first launch. Pegasus will pay NASA for the use of the aircraft for commercial launches. Up to 15 launches might be made from the NASA B-52, after which transition to a commercial heavy transport is expected. The aircraft has been picked but its identity is proprietary as yet. [Now why would they keep the identity of the aircraft secret? I mean, the 747 is the obvious choice. Unless... you don't suppose they're going to use an Airbus A340?!? Congress will be livid.] Drop will be at 40,000 ft. The first stage will light and fly a shallow wing-borne trajectory to Mach 8.7 at 208,000 ft. The wing is on the first stage, so the second and third stages fly more conventional upper-stage trajectories into orbit. The first launch will be into polar orbit, starting offshore from Vandenberg. Using air launch, of course, launch site and direction are pretty much arbitrary. It also means that Pegasus does not have to fight for access to launch facilities. [And they don't have to deal with the government, or mortgage their mothers to pay for insurance against launch-site damage.] Pegasus develoment is considered 50% complete; OSC+Hercules will hold a major engineering review this week. Late this month they will start using Ames's supercomputers for aerodynamic simulation -- Pegasus will not be wind-tunnel tested. They are already working with Ames people. [Eugene? You involved in this?] OSC+Hercules expect to price a Pegasus launch at under $10M. They forecast 10-12 per year and believe that it can support itself with half that. Breakeven will be reached after 16-18 launches, and with luck this will be two or three years after the first flight. Lots of people are interested, and a relatively diverse mix of customers is likely. This should give a fairly stable customer base. Pegasus's payload shroud is relatively large for the payload mass, 72in long by 46in wide, permitting a wide range of payload designs. Pegasus is being built for minimum prelaunch handling; eventually it is hoped that only 6-7 technicians will be needed for final assembly and launch. This will help costs a *lot*. Minimal ground hardware will be needed; no cranes. Also of interest, especially to Ames, is hypersonic flight testing at high altitudes and Mach numbers. The early Pegasus flights will carry quite a bit of Ames instrumentation to gather data relevant to the Aerospace Plane. 1500 lbs could be carried on a dedicated suborbital flight. Air launch turns out to give a 10-15% reduction in the necessary delta-V. The forward speed of the aircraft helps a bit. Launching at 40,000 ft helps much more: it reduces drag, reduces stress on the structure, reduces aerodynamic heating, reduces pressure loss in the exhaust, and permits a higher expansion ratio in the first-stage nozzle. The horizontal launch and the wing permit flying a much flatter and more efficient trajectory, and also greatly reduce the angle of attack needed for an air launch (a wingless air-launched rocket would have to make a sharp turn upward). The excellent supersonic wing (L:D 4:1) gives better performance than a similar weight of rocket fuel. (The wing will actually start to char just before first-stage burnout, but it doesn't matter since Pegasus is not reusable.) The net result is twice the payload mass fraction of a ground-launched booster. [Like I said, this is the best news in years. I hope OSC and Hercules make a bundle from this: they deserve it.] [Hmmm... 900 pounds, 42 inches. Kind of tight, and the upper-stage accelerations look uncomfortably high, but I bet you could man-rate it if you really tried.] -- Man is the best computer we can | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology put aboard a spacecraft. --Von Braun | {ihnp4,decvax,uunet!mnetor}!utzoo!henry ------------------------------ Date: 19 Jun 88 07:52:39 GMT From: sonia!khayo@cs.ucla.edu (Eric Behr) Subject: NASA news - Tony England; Senate ===================================================================== ASTRONAUT ENGLAND TO LEAVE NASA June 15, 1988 RELEASE: 88-80 NASA astronaut Anthony England, Ph.D., will leave NASA in October 1988 to accept a position with the University of Michigan as professor of electrical engineering. England will head the university's space remote sensing research for the Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences Department at Ann Arbor. England was selected as an astronaut in August 1967. He served as support crewman for Apollo missions 13 and 16 before taking a position as research geophysicist for the U.S. Geological Survey in 1974. In 1979, he returned to the Johnson Space Center and was subsequently assigned to Shuttle mission STS-51F (Spacelab-2) as a mission specialist. During that flight, which featured experiments in astronomy, solar physics, life sciences, and atmospheric research, England was responsible for operating the Spacelab Instrument Pointing System. England logged 188 hours in space on that mission. ===================================================================== NOTE TO EDITORS: NASA RESPONSE TO SENATE APPROPRIATION COMMITTEE MARK-UP June 16, 1988 The following comment was made today by NASA Administrator Dr. James C. Fletcher in response to the Senate Sub-Committee on HUD/Independent Agencies Committee on Appropriations mark-up of the NASA FY 1989 budget request: "It's not unexpected but it's near disaster for the space program, particularly the Space Station. We hope our friends on the Hill will reconsider." ===================================================================== Eric ------------------------------ End of SPACE Digest V8 #275 *******************